Saturday, January 14, 2012

A dialogue between ProbateShark and JR

 A dialogue between ProbateShark and JR

 Editor's note: Dear JR, Your ProbateShark still extends his hand to assist you.  Lucius Verenus, Schoolmaster, ProbateSharks.com


On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:13 PM, xxxx@yahoo.com wrote:

As the undersigned is willing to consider contributing certain evidence of recent experiences with the Cook County Probate Division, relative to an aged, disabled person's opposition to a fraudulently filed "Petition for Guardianship"; where is there a list of your organization's management, mailing address, fax number, etc., to whom such information, publication questions, etc., may be directed?

JR



From: LUCIUS VERENUS verenusl@gmail.com
To: "xxxx@yahoo.com" xxxx@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2012 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Request fo Contact Information.


Dear JR, Please feel free to use the contact page of ProbateSharks.com for email or phone. We are most interested in nursing home fraud, VA fraud, medicaid and medicare fraud and any solid evidence of kickbacks to judges or to and from nursing homes. Also feel free to comment using the comment tab on the web site. Lucius Verenus, Schoolmaster, ProbateSharks.com



On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 12:44 AM, xxxx@yahoo.com wrote:

Obviously, your "..contact page.." is where this inquirer found your e-mail. It logically follows, given the subject matter and its legal implications, one would need to know to whom any disclosures are being directed, what will be done with such information, and what risk of liability must be considered. Your name, and the curious reference to "..Schoolmaster..", implying some credibility which you will need to fully explicate, is not sufficient to constitute a credible, reliable, responsible person or entity with whom to entrust information which, for example, exposes the fact of: 1. extant document evidence of a forged "Resident/Facility" contract; 2. a forged POA healthcare agency; 3. a fraudulently filed Petition for Guardianship; and 4. the use of the Probate Court as the nursing corporation's own collection agency; to which this undersigned has been subjected, by a nursing "facility" administrator, and certain of his personnel, guilty of the appearance of such criminal conduct.

Accordingly, precisely who are "..We.."? What will you do with the information in which you are "..interested.."? Why should anyone disclose civil or criminal allegations, or factual evidence, regarding their respective Probate, Judge, lawyer, nursing "facility" experiences?



From: LUCIUS VERENUS verenusl@gmail.com
To: "xxxx@yahoo.com" xxxx@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Request fo Contact Information.


Your honor, we too are victims of the court system and are not attorneys and thus cannot give legal advise. If you are in Cook County and require help I would suggest that you contact the IL Attorney General's office or FBI with these very serious allegations. If you are not in Cook County I would suggest that you contact an organization called NASGA http://stopguardianabuse.org/ I do not wish to be flippant, however we at ProbateSharks are subjected to communications very similar to yours for motives other than assistance with the probate court system. If you wish our assistance and your case is in Cook or the collar counties of IL please advise your case number. Sincerely, Lucius Verenus, Schoolmaster, ProbateSharks.com P.S. "Schoolmaster" refers to a school of fish.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 12:44 PM, xxxx@yahoo.com wrote:

Please explain your reference "..Your honor..". Further, while your reference to "..sharks.." "..school of fish..", etc., is clarified, the last inquiry was not intended to elicit the vexing [lawyer speak] disclaimer of what you can not do, e.g. "..cannot give legal advise..[sic]..", but "..who are "..We.."?.." and if ".We .. are victims..", aside from commiserating or comparing experiences, what specific manner of "..assistance.." is possible to justify any effort to communicate this victim's evidence, case records, etc.? Having read two or three pages from your site, on the "ARDC", and two others, and while they reflect many allegations, caveats, conclusions, etc. --- there does not seem to be any information that, say, can be practicably incorporated, cited, footnoted, researched, etc., into legal submissions to "..assist.." opposition to an ongoing "guardianship" case --- which can not be summarily dismissed, by a Court, prospective legal counsel, etc., with such characterizations as "disgruntled", "diatribe", incredible, unsubstanted "opinion", etc.

As an aside, notwithstanding the previously referenced evidence was described to the Office of the Attorney General, there has been no response; ostensibly because they choose to accept the denials of the nursing home over an aged, disabled person whom [as is perspicuous from the following]:

"..having been subjected to a catastrophic cerebral/extremity event, while presently:

a. not able to speak clearly, verbally articulate polysyllabic words; at extemporaneous length, aggressively, or with suasory self-advocacy skill; precipitated by a prevailing [stroke induced] speech impairment; without representation and ADA accommodation;

b. not able to read without magnified text, representation and ADA accommodation;

c. not able to reliably hear and fully apprehend the cacophony of judicial-hearing agonistic crosstalk without representation and ADA accommodation;

d. not able to write by hand [except self-retrained “best effort“ endorsements w/unflavored hand], or normally process/generate professional legal correspondence, documents, etc., via U.S. mail without representation and ADA accommodation;

e. relegated to a wheelchair; and

f.

required, by the lower Court‘s order, to remain in the abusive, discriminatory and retaliatory care of a Petitioner, administrator/nursing home facility, which has filed a fraudulent Petition for Guardianship predicated upon forged contract/POA documents;

is, contrary to the appearance of prejudicial pre-judgment and discrimination on the part of the lower-Court; and the self-serving, conflicted, interests of the Petitioner, in the lower Court, in a fraudulent filed guardianship proceeding, nonetheless cognizant of conditions, circumstances, future needs, objectives, etc., and competent to make informed decisions which the undersigned can communicate [as the most efficacious means]; via pre-arranged administrative agent assistance and telefax and/or e-mailed digital image transmission service providers.."

can be easily ignored. Therefore, if the Attorney General's office will dismiss, without investigation, a claim of forgery and the abuse of the Probate Court as a "collection agency" --- what supports your presumption the FBI won't similarly automatically accept the AG's adoption of the nursing home's denials --- when the complainant is aged, disabled and merely alleged, falsely, to be "..incapacitated.." because of sub-paragraph "..a...", above, and the irresponsibility of such, so called, "serve and protect" agencies which seize the first opportunity to avoid the commitment of their time, budget, and --- work?

As you are aware, the case number and name, etc., is a "public record" and certainly can be identified and provided; what corresponding information will you provide that establishes your credibility? What prevents you from simply characterizing, possibly inaccurately or, worse, falsely, on your website what you choose to glean from such any disclosed case? There is not enough time, given the Court's schedule in this matter, to waste on dialog which will not be efficacious or, worse, which only constitutes anecdotal information or experiences that can not be substantiated and, better still, used to favorably affect the outcome of this undersigned's case. Please act fully and constructively responsive to the aforementioned questions. Thank you. JR


From: LUCIUS VERENUS
To: "xxxx@yahoo.com"
Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Request fo Information.

Hi JR, You may be best served by contacting an attorney who specializes in probate law. Other than commiserate with your situation, we may not be able to provide much assistance. Many of the folks who contact us are completely shattered from their experiences with the probate court, therefore I understand your reticence to provide information. I would suggest that you contact NASGA as they may be able to refer you to the proper venue to best assist you. Best wishes, and good luck in your endeavor. L. Verenus



On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 3:24 PM, xxxx@yahoo.com wrote:

Obviously, if an "..an attorney who specializes in probate law.." could be confidently retained, in this context --- assuming one can reliably distinguish the parasites among that small group, --- there would be no logical reason to research sites such as yours. A cursory review of the NASGA website page http://stopguardianabuse.org/wanted.htm reveals the listing of two [2] attorneys, repeated for emphasis, two [2] lawyers whom have represented this undersigned, in the subject guardianship matter, and were allowed to withdraw due to misconduct --- effectively denying this undersigned further legal representation. Like you, it would appear, as soon as something sounds complex, serious, constitutes --- work, or the undersigned is perceived as having acquired too much legal knowledge, asking too many pointed questions, etc., attorneys defensively "cherry pick" their answers, hide their accessibility, evade accountability, or provide distance creating recommends of others whom turn out to be of similar --- ilk. It is not this undersigned's "..reticence to provide information.." it's --- your curious reticence!!! If you purport to provide some manner of service, "..assistance..", your word, etc., given the fact you are soliciting information with which to garner some manner of consideration, value, benefit, etc., then you need to "open your doors" to reasonable scrutiny, not the consumer, otherwise you are no different a parasite then those you, hypocritically, imply or accuse of corruption, exploitation, wrong doing, etc.

At the risk of appearing trite, you are just another irrelevant responsibility evading observer contributing to "..the problem --- not the solution..". Instead of posting a site apparently intended to attract the subject relevant details of life experiences "hand-delivered" to you, for your own brand, version of exploitation, you would likely create a more credible, admirable personal achievement legacy if you consider re-examining your brief existence, given your acquired knowledge, and actually make, not imitate, a difference which facilitates substantive reform of this particular system; otherwise you are just contributing false hope to naive readers before they "..too.." become "..victims of the ... system..". For your edification, no one with a reasonable intellect actually wants someone, in your apparent position, with whom to "..commiserate.." --- they want material, practicable solutions. If you can not provide --- other than the reproduction of unverifiable anecdotes, charges, claims --- substantive, practicable information, assistance, etc., then you are only creating the appearance, like the parasites you assail, of exploiting the hardships, travails and suffering of others, capitalizing upon the attrahent appearance of your website and their disclosed experiences, for your exclusive, aberrant, benefit. You're no --- "..victim.." of a predator, you're just another --- scavenger. If you are not willing to constructively help, then, sparing me any feigned indignation, do not further respond.



On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, LUCIUS VERENUS wrote:


Hi JR, I wish you much luck in your attempt to find help with your problem. Unless you change your attitude, you may find it difficult locate any help for your problem. In the future please don't hesitate to contact ProbateSharks. It is very obvious that you have been deeply hurt by the court system and are striking out at the nearest person who wishes to help. Sincerely, Lucius Verenus, Schoolmaster, ProbateSharks.com

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM, xxxxt@yahoo.com wrote:

In addition to revealing your inability to apprehend what you read, your sophomoric conclusion, and less than trenchant attempt to characterize this exchange as an atavistic event evoking your youthful susceptibility to victimization, vindicating the judgments about you, herein below, resulting from your previous evasive, inept, feckless retorts; so as to project your own deficits upon those whom "see through" your selfish, ineffectual personality, only served to substantiate the appearance you are a petty, puerile intellect, bereft of any redeeming virtue and, once again, a pathetic societal --- scavenger. Since you further appear to be retaliatorily discriminating against this aged, disabled person --- for the last time --- do not continue to provocatively respond.



LUCIUS VERENUS
Jan 8 (5 days ago)
to xxxxx


Dear JR, I do accept "...your youthful susceptibility..." as a complement. I feel soon that JR will next accuse me of being on the "grassy knoll". We sharks and sharkettes extend our hands to assist you. All we require is a case number to show that you are a real person and not one of the many who would cause us harm. I, myself am a businessman, a U.S. Navy Veteran, married for 47 years and have 7 children, two of whom are U.S. military veterans and one who is disabled. Once you provide us with a case number that we can check out we will do everything in our power to help you. L.V.

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